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Declining a job offer.
So a client sent me an invite last night, okay naman yung usapan kumbaga, good to go na contract na lang ang kulang. Today, he messaged me again and said na gusto nya ibaba yung hourly rate that we agreed on ($7.5 yung orginal he wants to change it to $5). Note that the job requires you to process orders, process returns, and refunds, answer emails and manage their social media accounts plus 1 day off lang. $7- $7.5 talaga ang nirerate ko na pag ganito so I told him na hindi ako pumapayag.
Nakakalungkot lang kasi his answer was like "I am not sure why you can't take the $5/hr when I have other Filipino Freelancers willing to take it for just $3/hr."
I get it, some of us are just starting our career and are willing to take lower rates just to build a good profile, but guys, kung ganun ang workload, I don't think anyone deserves that, hindi makatarungan . Nabababaan ako sa totoo lang. And to be honest, isa to sa mga reason kung bakit ang baba ng "tingin" satin ng mga foreign clients.
Sana wag tayo pumayag ng ganito ang treatment satin ng mga clients. Parang love lang yan, know your worth and don't settle for less. Cheret 😁😘
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It is really case to case basis, for me if I am a newbie at wala pang client, I would go for it.
But if I have 2 or more clients na, I will decline. Why? It is time to get premium clients to have more income but less hours of work.
Hay nako! Kakagising ko lang at may experience akong parang ganito, mas malala pa actually hahaha!
Almost one year akong hiatus as a writer kasi buntis ako at nanganak a few weeks ago lang. So the last couple of weeks, nagstart na ako ulit mag-apply kasi medyo okay naman na ang sleeping patterns ni baby so kakayanin kahit part time.
I've been receiving offers na lately and work slowly starts to fill my sched. Then this certain client, gusto niya akong magwork sa kanya full time. Ang gusto niya magsulat ako ng "up to 5000 words minimum" for every 8-hour workday. So ano ba talaga? 😂 But wait, there's more! Babayaran niya raw ako ng $25/day (ang initial na gusto pa niyang gawin kong wordcount eh 10000 words a day). So in short, around $5/1000 words.
Bagong gising ako nu'ng nabasa ko mga terms niya at sobrang nainsulto ako to be honest. Ngayon iniisip ko tuloy ano best way magrespond na hindi naman nang-aaway. 😂
Wala naman akong minamaliit sa post ko, that's just my point of view. Wala rin naman akong sinabi na wag kayo mag rate ng mababa kasi you do you talaga hehe. Like I said, I get it, I really do. Kaso nakakadismaya kasi yung reaction ng clients sa ganyan. Hindi naman lahat ng client mabait, baka ang ending pa samantalahin pa yung rate mo
Totally agree with you. The mere fact na iniba nya ang original offeris a form of disrespect.. He should be asking for an apology tbh...
Okay naman yung $5 kaso hindi okay yung nasabi niya why he wants to offer you $5. Eh di mag hanap siya nun.
Para sa taong galing sa corporate world ang laki na ng $3 per hour compare mo sa 500 pesos per day.. so tatanggapin nila ang $3 per hr kesa wala dahil malaking tulong na sa kanila yan.. and kung newbie pa at hindi nmn confident sa skill nya eh tingin nila $3 lng tlg hayaan mo na kesa mahal ang rate pero pangit ng work o di pa pala expert.. kung sa tingin mo expert ka na wag kang tumanggap may mga client nmn naghahanap ng expert and willing to pay big may mga client nmn na di kailangan expert o magaling basta trainable o marunong at low rates
Depende po talaga sa kaso ng tao. Meron talagang tatanggap lalu na kung walang experience at nagsabay na kailangan mong kumita at kailangan mong mag gain ng experience. Pero kailangan kasi prove muna ang sarili bago ka humingi ng mataas. Pag may napatunayan ka naman makatarungan ang naging contribution mo sa company then ask for a raise pag hindi binigay hanap ka na ng ibang kayang magbigay. pero sa simula patunayan muna ang sarili at unahin na mapakain ang pamilya sa halagang $3/hr.
If that is yours, then it will be yours...some new starters need a start up too...
kung ako newbie at me nag offer sken ng $3 per hour why not? kung ako tenured at me regular client na ako bat ko i aaccept yan? case to case basis pa rin naman ung mga ganito.
Tanungin mo kung is he hiring you for your "race" or is he hiring for your skills?
Dahil dumadami na ng sobra ang gusto mging freelancer at mag work from home dahil sa mga naririnig nila na malaki kita at success stories, nagiging race to the bottom ung iba. Tatanggap ng $2-$3 per hour tapos sobrang bigat ng workloads.. kahapon lang meron ako prospect sabi ko lowest ko $13 per hour abay gusto ba nmn $5.00 ksi daw sinabhan sya na un lng daw usual rate sa pinas buti sana kung entry level pinapagawa nya eh kso merong animation. Mapapamura ka na lng tlga.
People are in different situations. Those who offered or accepted the $3/hr rate might be in need and that $3/hr is a big help for them.
First off, everyone is entitled to their opinion may it based on experiences or where they are coming from. For me, knowing your worth can be subjective and sometimes requires proof. Say, that’s your worth but result/performance says it’s not or the other way around. So, it depends if you can keep refusing but still able to feed mouth, pay bills and all. As for those who are good with a minimal start, it doesn’t end there. Most of the time, when they see your true value or worth, and the impact you contribute to the business, you will be rewarded with promotion, increment in salary, travel incentives, insurance, job stability, etc. The experience says a lot but sometimes practicality goes a long a way and helps you in difficult situations. Just my 2 cents.
Agree! This kind of clients doesnt deserve great VA like us chereeet! Lets not beg for our worth. The world is soo big and we have soo much to offer. Definitely we’ll get premium clients.
yung ibang work from home naman kasi, ni 1 dollar an hour hindi worth pasahuran. yung matatagal na sa industry for sure kaya tumagal yan e ginagawa nila work nila ng maayos. Biglang dumami mga homebased workers na barubal na nga makipagusap, masyado pang mataas tingin sa sarili, pag nahire naman puro may tech issue, di magwowork ng matino, tapos maghahanap ng payout. jusmiyo. For those who ask for high rates, for sure mga matatagal na yan na marunong talaga magtrabaho. Di yung mga dating natutulog lang sa call centers tapos narinig lang na mataas kita homebase biglang nagshift, dinala dito pag uugali nila.
hmm.. depends I guess? I just started. I sent a proposal (so you know na, upwork platform ko) this month (specifically Jan 7) for a one time fixed-rate job na 20 USD. Yung job was just to download yt videos and convert it to mp3. Sabi ko noon, I can do that in an hour.
I thought it's a good opportunity to start my profile. And I got the job on set. Pero nung sinend na nya sa akin yung mga links ng yt, tumbling ang lola mo😂. Minimum of 2 hours ang isang link tapos max ang 10 hours! Ay wala akong alam na free na converter sa kahit saan na pwede magamit (noob na noob).
What I did, I searched for the source of these videos and took it from there. I had to use an app to combine them again to be the same time as from the original links. Imagine the oras? For 20 USD (wala pa bawas ng upwork jan), I finished the job ng 15 hours (2 days). Ambaba ng return noh? Pero ngayon, this same client offered me 2 exclusive jobs. One is fixed (ongoing) and the other an hourly (ongoing din). My profile stated I am charging 5.56 USD (matagal ko na create tong profile na to pero ngayon ko lang ginamit. So yung rate na yan nilagay ko lang since wala pa ako idea noon ng kalakaran). He offered 5 USD and I took it. Mababa oo pero... ang workload juice ko. Maghanap ng emails na pinost sa mga real estate websites.
Yun lang. Ako mismo I feel na not worth binabayaran ni client sa akin 😂. Kasi ambagal ko pa magsearch. Pero tyaga pa naman sya sa akin so keri... Now ang tanong, if I'll be working with another client with same work, magkano pay? No idea. 1st client ko to
Again, I am not saying na it's wrong. Sabi ko nga dun sa isang comment ko case to case basis talaga ang hindi lang okay is why he wants to change the hourly rate. $5/hr is not bad at all. Ang pangit lang kasi ng reason nya kung bakit ayaw nya tanggapin yung unang inoffer nya na rate.
Trueee. Grabe. Lagi nila isasagot yung " I have other Filipino freelancers that willing to take this job for $3/hr" .. and when they say this. I always tell them "Not being rude sir, but you can go ahead and hire them." Heheheheh! 😂😂 Pero ang ending ako pa din ang ihahire. Nakakalungkot po talaga to kasi yung iba talagang ginagrab nila kahit mababa ang rate tas yung workload grabe kasi ang reason nila is "kailangan" nila. And hindi natin napapansin sinasamantala yun ng mga Client kasi alam nilang kailangan.
Jobs we decline can be a blessing to someone. :) Let's just hope na they can get higher rates once they already have enough experience as a freelancer. And hopefully, there will be more clients who appreciate experience and quality for the right price.
Good decision, masakit sa anit katrabaho ang mga ganyan klaseng magisip na kliyente, nakakadandruff. 😊
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